AirPort Disk: Easy Network Storage
by Chris Stone
53 Comments
| Tom Boucher 2007-01-13 13:06:32 |
If you could find out how it's routers perofrmance is. This is what is holding me back right now.
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| Mike Abdullah 2007-01-13 14:06:31 |
And why no Gigabit ethernet eh? |
| anon 2007-01-13 14:28:41 |
Have you confirmed the file sharing protocols and disk formats with Apple? I have not seen other references and am very curious about what the AEBS uses.
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| Mike 2007-01-13 14:30:08 |
Hey Chris, thanks for the info. I've been looking for data on the usage of the AirPort Disk since I saw it mentioned for its release. Do you believe it's targeted more for use as a Time Machine backup device or for the home network file server or both? Also, what mechanism in this AEBS allows it to host multiple printers? Could this be attributed to the embedded OS X? I thought I would be able to do this with the current AEBS, but I quickly found out otherwise when I attempted to hook up all my printers through a USB hub. |
| Chris Stone 2007-01-13 17:58:48 |
Anon, yes, all the specs were confirmed with Apple. I should have answers regarding funtionality early in the week, but getting answers to the "why's" and "why not's" may be harder to come by. You're free to speculate among yourselves, though :-)
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| anon 2007-01-13 22:49:26 |
Cool. Thanks for the info, Chris. While I also don't expect answers to the "why's" and "why not's", please don't feel bashful passing on our requests...
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| Charles 2007-01-13 23:05:05 |
Hi - does anyone know if there is ftp included? To access a plugged in drive from outside the network and upload files as you could with an NAS drive from Buffalo, for example. In short, is this a good replacement for an NAS drive? Thanks, Charles |
| aswitcher 2007-01-13 23:58:12 |
This is going to make Time Machine so useful for MacBook/Pro users.
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| Alexey 2007-01-14 02:10:45 |
Thanks for the info, Chris. I mostly buy FW 800 enabled drives, but not dragging a drive around and having it readily available via AEBS sounds very appealing. As far I as understand you're not supposed to have an external drive plugged in at all times. Or does this only apply to mounting? Any idea if this kind of setup is going to be safe for the drive itself (overheating, etc)? |
| JulesLt 2007-01-14 02:55:11 |
From what I can work out from the Apple site, there's no direct way for the AEBS and AppleTV to work directly together - the implication is you need a machine running iTunes (running a Bonjour share of it's iTunes library) for the AppleTV to see it.
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| jw 2007-01-14 03:21:23 |
does anyone know whether i can share an ethernet disk with AEBS as well? after all it has 4 LAN connectors? |
| handsomefish 2007-01-15 03:44:04 |
When my wife and I switched to macbooks I had all sorts of problems recreating a wireless network setup that had worked fine under windows. You might be able to get an overview of the problem here, at the apple support forums. A few people suggested that the problem was Finder and its fundamental handling of wireless networked storage. Might the whizzy new airport solve my problems? In the end I just bought a couple of USB hard disks and ditched network storage. If this worked, I could always plug them into a base station. |
| woVi 2007-01-15 05:13:16 |
do You know if it's going to be possible to stack it with the Mac mini? At least it has the same meseaures. No as the Apple TV witch is bigger. May be under a Mac mini it get into interferences troubles.. |
| Alex Waddell 2007-01-15 05:21:47 |
Does anyone know if this would work with the Iomega MiniMax firewire disk? If it did this would be a really awesome looking stack.... |
2007-01-15 05:36:55 |
Argh! This is Apple... where's the firewire disk port? :( |
| James 2007-01-15 06:42:44 |
Judging by the dimensions (and shape) of the Airport Extreme it looks like Mac Mini compatible external drives will stack nicely, very nicely.
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| Alex 2007-01-15 09:49:44 |
Could this feature be available on airport express ? |
| phil 2007-01-15 09:58:59 |
Magnifique enfin |
| Edward C 2007-01-15 10:35:21 |
Few questions. Some ( most now ) mid range NAS drive has itunes server included. So any songs on the HD / Airport Disk will show up on itunes share. Is this available on Airport Extreme?
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| Island in the Net 2007-01-15 13:04:36 |
I see no mention of CIFS/SMB networking protocol support anywhere on the AirPort Extreme section of the Apple web site. Bonjour is the only one mentioned. How did you determine that this device supports those protocol? |
| Chris Stone 2007-01-15 13:20:46 |
Bonjour is not a sharing protocol, but for service discovery. The two sharing protocols provided by the new AEBS are AFP and SMB as confirmed to me by Apple.
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| ExplodingBolts 2007-01-16 10:45:15 |
Yeah, but...
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| Art Chen 2007-01-16 16:14:11 |
Interesting. I am looking at networking two Macs, two printers, a shared storage, and have DSL available to both. This tells me I need a switch or router. How well with this new device fit my needs?
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| emmayche 2007-01-17 10:14:44 |
The AEBS has always performed the functions of a router; no reason it won't continue to do so. |
| Rumplestiltskin 2007-01-17 15:17:53 |
The 100mb Enet ports don't worry me. However, how fast would data transfer be from an attached USB2 hard drive to an Ethernet-connected Mac? Theoretically, lots of speed there but virtually every NAS I've examined (the less costly ones) have terrible performance...2-4MB/s usually. Might this puppy -really- give us something in the 10MB/second range?
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| Bob Jenkins 2007-01-21 21:24:48 |
It is impossible anything close to 10Mb/sec will be achieved, since this would be pretty much maxing the 100 base t wired connection bandwidth! The most you could expect would be something like 3-5 Mb/sec.
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| ChamFan 2007-01-23 08:42:26 |
Useful info Chris - thanks.
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| Robg 2007-01-24 14:49:49 |
Could you store your iTunes library here, have every computer on your network point to this drive as their iTunes library and then any music digitized on the network would go here and be available to all?
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| iJo 2007-01-29 05:03:53 |
Hello,
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| feverdog 2007-02-06 14:03:28 |
I am essentially looking to do the same thing as Robg -- store my iTunes library on an external USB drive connected to the AEBS, then stream using AirTunes from my Powerbook to Airport Express connected to my stereo. My concern is that streaming will be too slow using wireless across the Network.
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| Joe 2007-02-08 14:55:28 |
(1) Yes you can put your iTunes library on your AirPort disk. The streaming is more than fast enough for audio, and also works fine for .avi, .mov and .mp4 files.
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| Robert Craig 2007-02-20 08:53:45 |
Does anyone know if its possible to add RAID 1 with two USB disks and the Airport Extreme? Mirroring?
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| Doug Zolmer 2007-04-05 16:39:19 |
Saving a large file from my Windows Vista laptop to a Western Digital My Book attached to my AEBS is not only slow (~2MB/s), but it truncates any files larger than 2^13 bytes (2GB).
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| Colin Smith 2007-04-14 18:00:33 |
From the Airport Utility Help Page: Format the hard disk using your computer. On a Macintosh, format the hard disk using Mac OS Extended. On a Computer using Windows XP, use FAT32. AirPort Utility does not support formatting disks.
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| LDG 2007-04-22 20:59:07 |
I'm using a Lacie Hub drive with the AEBS and so far it works fine with my Powerbook; showed up right away in the network browser and I'm currently using it as my iTunes library. I'm streaming it to my stereo via AirTunes on an Airport Express and the bandwidth is fine even on my Ti PB (802.11b) with hi-quality sound files.
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| samantha 2007-04-29 11:33:28 |
I spend part of my time in Linux. I can get to my AEBS printer just fine from Linux wired and undwired as a normal Internet printer at the address of the AEBS. I don't know though what protocol to use to get to the AEBS disk I have hanging off it. Has anyone done this? If so, what did you use? |
| Tarik 2007-06-25 16:41:44 |
Thanks for the info, Chris. I bought the Airport Extreme router for my home network to share my music library between my Macbook Pro and two Windows-based PCs (one running Vista). I was able to hookup an external USB HD to the router and am able to see the new "server" on ALL computers (hurray for me!).
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| Saeed 2007-06-30 16:53:47 |
Anyone noticed problems while sharing USB disk with windows PCs? I never made i work with FAT32, have formatted my 500 GB Hitachi disk to HFS+. Every now and then, accessing files from my PC makes the AE restart. Would apprecite help from all, but in particualr from someone who actually is using this feature with PC,s, (XP as well as Vista). |
| guillaume 2007-07-05 02:49:58 |
thanks for all those infos. but can i update my old Airport extrem to mount a hard disk? if yes, it can really help me. i have look for the software AIRPORT Ulity 5.0. but i couldn't found. if anybody could help, thanks a lot. my email is : XU_hai_hua@hotmail.com |
| Terry 2007-08-21 09:12:28 |
I found with windows I can now see HFS Extended disk using the fee utility HFS Explorer or the shareware program (is better polished) MacDrive. |
| koryodell 2007-08-23 08:51:08 |
I'm having much difficulty doing the following:
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| Haybarn 2007-09-24 10:15:25 |
I bought the latest AEBS with gigabit, to gain the AirDisk capability for our mixed platform home network (2 PC's, 1 Mac). My Seagate SATA III 400gb drive, in a dual interface (eSata III/USB2) Antec external case could be read by my wife's Mac G4, but not written to because it was NTFS. Converted the drive to FAT32 and USB2. I use Terabyte's Image for Windows and Image for DOS. The former locks files and backs up Vista, etc. from within Vista - cool! A 50gb data image took <1 hour in eSata. It now takes over 4 hours using AirDisk and USB2. Ouch! Instead of Firewire ports, or in addition to, I wish for eSata III. Otherwise, I'll be looking for a better solution than AirDisk. In all other respects, with allowances for my Win culture of tweaking everything to death, the AEBS works fine, including VOIP. |
| John 2007-09-24 15:33:49 |
If you want to wall mount your new apple airport extreme then check out www.applemountingbracket.com
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| Henry 2007-09-29 17:41:41 |
hi, i wanted to know if there is a tutorial anywhere that could show me how to access my files outside of my network over the internet. I see the Wide Area Bonjour link above and just get lost. anyone? or is this even possible? |
| brian 2007-10-02 23:35:50 |
I have the same questions as Henry above. |
| Jake Smith 2007-10-08 21:53:14 |
Henry & Brian, I may be able to help you. I set up mine yesterday and think its an amazing feature, I even took my macbook to a Starbucks and accessed my flash drive on my home network. First off you of course want to go to the AirPort utility and select share disks over WAN and advertise glabally using Bonjour. These are found under file sharing. Next you want to head over to advanced and click on Bonjour. I filled in my hostname as my airport name, Name as applenet and then the airport password. Be sure that the use a wide-are hostname box is checked. Now only thing that should be blank is the domain. This can easily be found by clickin g on the internet button in the Airport utility and will say domain name next to it. For example I have Road Runner as my ISP. My domain is columbus.rr.com . Next thing you need to do is find out what your DNS server is. You can find this by head ing to this website http://www.dnswatch.info/ and entering your IP. Your DNS should be in the "Answer" box. Now to access your AirPort disk using the internet.... in Finder click Go>Connect to server (or Apple+K) Then in the Server Address box type in the DNS that was given to you in the DNS watch answer box and put afp:// before it. If you have any questions feel free to email me at at360(at)mac(dot)com |
| Jake Smith 2007-10-08 21:53:23 |
Henry & Brian, I may be able to help you. I set up mine yesterday and think its an amazing feature, I even took my macbook to a Starbucks and accessed my flash drive on my home network. First off you of course want to go to the AirPort utility and select share disks over WAN and advertise glabally using Bonjour. These are found under file sharing. Next you want to head over to advanced and click on Bonjour. I filled in my hostname as my airport name, Name as applenet and then the airport password. Be sure that the use a wide-are hostname box is checked. Now only thing that should be blank is the domain. This can easily be found by clickin g on the internet button in the Airport utility and will say domain name next to it. For example I have Road Runner as my ISP. My domain is columbus.rr.com . Next thing you need to do is find out what your DNS server is. You can find this by head ing to this website http://www.dnswatch.info/ and entering your IP. Your DNS should be in the "Answer" box. Now to access your AirPort disk using the internet.... in Finder click Go>Connect to server (or Apple+K) Then in the Server Address box type in the DNS that was given to you in the DNS watch answer box and put afp:// before it. If you have any questions feel free to email me at at360(at)mac(dot)com |
| Jake Smith 2007-10-08 22:45:12 |
For those trying to setup their AirPort disks over Wide Area Bonjour. I threw together a PDF file that should guide you through the process (includes screenshots). You can download the guide here http://www.mediafire.com/?1sgpgei03mz |
| Dave 2007-10-23 23:48:43 |
Does anybody know how to access whatever the AEBS w/ Airport Disk uses in place of a smb.conf file? I want to hide the "dot" files so Windows users (including me!) don't see them.
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| Bill 2007-11-09 00:12:51 |
Has anyone been able do download Jake's PDF on using Wide Area Bonjour? I tried to get it but MediaFire told me the file no longer exists. If someone knows where this file can be had, I'd greatly appreciate hearing about it. Thanks. |
