Doubt is a Lonely Pain

by Mikkel Aaland

Madrid, Spain: My Lightroom Adventure book has been at the printer for almost two weeks now. For me, the time between a book going to the printer and the time when it is bound and shipped and actually in my hands is always an emotional roller coaster. This has been especially true for this book.


Mark Phillipsf
2007-07-12 10:15:07
So Mikkel I'm assuming the July 15th estimated release date was optimistic.

I'm looking forward to the book.

BTW, the more I play with LR 1.1, the less likely I am to be turning to CS3 anytime soon. It's a great program.


Mikkel Aaland
2007-07-12 11:28:14
JULY 15th is pretty close to correct... I mean it takes a little while for the printer to ship to the various distribution points... but it shouldn't take very long. Mark, if I hear otherwise I'll let you know!
Harold Blouin
2007-07-13 10:38:44
I've ordered the book since June 27th from Amazon Canada, delivery date: Oct 12.
I can wait!!!
I too, love LR 1.1 and find I'm using CS2 and Bridge less often.
Just lightroom's Print module makes it worth the price.
Thanks Mikkel for your books.

Oh yeah, are you going to be on "The Lab With Leo" (Leo Laporte) any time soon?

Mark Phillips
2007-07-13 21:10:49
Thanks Mikkel. I have it on order from Amazon, who still have it listed for the 15th. It sounds likely to ship within a week or so from your description. When you get yours just let me know if you think it's any good! Seriously...looking forward to it...whenever.


Mark Phillips
2007-07-18 10:22:38
I realize you may offline and enjoying the warmth and beauty of Spain Mikkel, but have you heard anything new from the printer re completion?



2007-07-19 09:28:54
Hi Mark, Spain was GREAT! Back in rainy Norway... got an email from my editor, Colleen Wheeler, which says:

"Our date from the printer for Bound Book Date is July 20; the in-stock date is 7/25 which I believe is the day they get to the warehouse."

That's all I know, for now.

Mark Phillips
2007-07-19 11:57:00
Thanks Mikkel.
We'll see who gets it first O'Reilly or Amazon.
Given that book merchandising sometimes defies logic I'm placing no bets.
And Norway can be wonderful, even in the rain.


Andy Stahly
2007-07-21 03:35:35
Mikkel, I just received a notice from Amazon that your book delivery date that I pre-ordered went from July20 to Sept! Did you know that? Whats up!?
2007-07-21 06:46:15

Andy, that makes no sense to me at all...The book is done. It's printed. I can't imagine it takes that long to get to Amazon. But I'll double check on Monday and see what's up.
Mark Phillips
2007-07-25 14:39:28
Hey Mikkel we're all waiting eagerly :-)

Any word from the movers and shakers in the office?

Unrelated topic: do you think Lightroom will ever make editing of selective parts of a photo possible (short of exporting images to CS3)?



2007-07-25 14:50:53
Hey Mark, my editor in California just got a copy of the book. Lucky her! She says it looks fantastic. She'll fedx a copy to me here in Norway. So... it will be a couple days before I see it. But we are looking good! I'm told it will ship to everyone within days... Let me know if you hear anything, ok?

As for your other question:

" you think Lightroom will ever make editing of selective parts of a photo possible (short of exporting images to CS3)?"

Have you seen Nikon Capture NX U Point technology, which allows you to apply localized editing directly to the image itself? I really hope Lightroom follows that direction... it's so cool.

Mark Phillips
2007-07-26 06:23:02
Thanks Mikkel.

Update from O'Reilly says it's now available.
Amazon is still saying mid-September! Hopefully that will change.

Where are you in Norway.? I spent a great week in Sandefjord and another in Bergen. Old Bergen story. Old man is asked whether it always rains there. He says "I don't know, I've only been living here eighty years."

Enjoy the wonderful Norwegian summer.


2007-07-26 08:12:17
Mark, glad the book is finally available! We are in Ulefoss, about 30 minutes from Skien, which is near Sandefjord. We inherited my father's home, which was also my Grandfathers, and his fathers... so it goes back a long way. It's a small town, and we are on a river surrounded by a forest. Lovely place.
Andy Stahly
2007-07-26 10:05:06
Mark- odd, I've not seen that update on O'Reilly..the book still shows not pub yet...
Mikkel- Amazon still shows mid- Sept for delivery..
Any other discount book sellers around that might have it earlier??

btw, got a good laugh on that Bergen story :)

Andy Stahly
2007-07-26 10:11:04
for what its worth, barnes and noble also shows Sept 15 as release date.
Mark Phillips
2007-07-27 09:05:20
My error.
I received a newsletter from O'Reilly saying it's now available. But if you try buying it it shows backorder status.

I still want to get it from Amazon given the price difference and the tax I have to pay as a California resident.


2007-07-27 14:10:07
Mark, looks like Amazon is finally shipping the Lightroom Adventure book. Whew... what a relief! Let me know when you get it and what you think. I still don't have a copy myself...
Mark Phillips
2007-07-27 15:16:51
Thanks for the alert Mikkel.

I will have mine by no later than next Wednesday if they ship as expected.

And of course I'll let you know what I think immediately.

Ha en god kveld.


Mark Phillips
2007-07-31 04:44:34
Amazon is running a little behind and I now have a promised shipping date of the 1st...Friday delivery. Stay tuned.


2007-07-31 10:28:14
And I STILL Don't HAVE a COPY!!!!!
Andy Stahly
2007-08-02 10:01:30
I have the book in my hands! In my first pass (admittedly looking at just the pictures) I was struck at the quality of the binding and vibrance of the colors and stunning photos illustrating the beauty of Iceland (and that hope my wife doesn't read this). If it reads anything like it looks it WILL be a winner. I'll report back in a few weeks my thoughts. But my first fly-by is a big thumbs up! (Except for UPS who damaged it a bit in transit) :( Congrats to you!
Mark Phillips
2007-08-03 07:15:49
I have it and, as expected, it's both very well written and beautiful.
My only question is whether it will be sufficient by itself or whether I'll need to use it with another book, like Kelby's or Evening's.

A technical question for Mikkel or for any of you. I want to do my sharpening of some photos in CS3. I know how to export a photo to CS3, but how can I then bring it back into Lightroom as edited in CS3 without corrupting the file in some way?

I want to do my printing and posting from Lightroom.

Guidance appreciated.



2007-08-03 07:55:03
Thanks Mark! I finally got my copy the other day and I'm very happy with the book as well. Whew... now I can relax. Anyway, as for you question: are you starting in LR and then going to PS? If you are, then it is simple. Use the Edit in Photoshop command (under Photo in the Develop Module). Make you changes. Close the file. It should automatically be included back in your LR catalog as a .psd or .tiff (whatever you choose). Your original file is untouched. This is pretty simple, which makes me think you may be doing things another way. Let met know...
Mark Phillips
2007-08-03 08:31:23
Thanks Mikkel.

No time to check it out to Napa do some shooting...but I will tomorrow. I have a hunch that actually did happen with the two photos I experimented with but I just wasn't aware they were saved back into Lightroom. Would they just show up on the strip as edited in CS3?


2007-08-03 08:55:26
They will appear as a thumbnail in the library. They will also have an a .psd or .tif file extension. And Mark, you asked about the other LR books out there. Frankly, I haven't looked at them so I don't know what they offer. You are on your own with that question!
Mark Phillips
2007-08-04 09:44:35
Thanks Mikkel. I did figure that out shortly after I wrote the last message and have now used CS3 with LR successfully.

As far as other books go, it's really apples and oranges. This book is the most beautiful and most user friendly of all the LR books. The books by Scott Kelby and by Martin Evening are not ones you can easily read through. They are encyclopedic, especially the Evening one. They serve that purpose well.

But I'm having fun learning by reading yours.