Help me like Instant Messaging again.

by Steve Mallett

Help me like instant messaging (IM) again. I was an early adopter, but got burned.

Back when ICQ was still new I had adopted using it. It was fabulous and my friends & I had taken to using it instead of email. For each other anyway. Something bad happened though. Spam. By the bucketload. There were days when I'd here "Oh-uh!" twenty times a day with nothing but invitations to chat with someone cute and lonely. Right.

Despite clicking every checkbox in the preferences the spam didn't stop. My friends & I eventually had to opt for using it less and less until we just couldn't bother with it any longer. At least we had some spam prevention with out email clients or ISPs.

This week I was specifically asked to start an IM chat by a collegue. After all these years I figured, "why not?" So, I went searching for the iChat icon (which I had removed from the OS X dock bar) and went about getting an AIM account. It was nice to use IM again, but I've been waiting for the spam to start rolling in. How long could it take for AOL, owner of AIM, to sell my nick to spammers?

It's been a couple of days & nothing uninvited has slipped in, but I wonder if I should append that statement with 'yet'.

As an early adopter of IM did I just suffer the growing pains of a new technology or is it all still the same?

I'd like to get back into it, but am looking for some tips 'n' tricks. The most specific thing I want to know is your experience with spam. What's the best way to stop it from a provider level, client level, personal hack level, etc. I run OS X on my daily work machine & have my own Linux server(s) so anything specific to that would be best.


Until then I'll leave my AIM nick a secret.


20 Comments

cji
2003-04-12 08:30:33
AIM? Never
Maybe I'm just lucky, but I've never recieved a spam on AOL Instant Messenger.


back when I was using actual AOL..that was another story - porn IMs all the time.


I even have my AIM name publically on my web page, but still no spam.
good luck!

anonymous2
2003-04-12 08:57:00
None
Been using for 4 years and get no spams... After 3 minutes on ICQ I had a "barely legal" wanting to get into my pants... Lame.


You can also set AIM to only show you as online for people on your buddy list--that's spam proof.


-jon @ mobiletracker.net

anonymous2
2003-04-12 10:40:36
Fire
Get Fire - fire.sf.net


In Preferences -> New Messages
Check "Block messages from people not in my buddy list"


You can use Fire for *anything* - AIM, ICQ, Yahoo, MSN, Jabber, and IRC. (using it for IRC is a little tricky, but definitely viable.)

charliebrown
2003-04-12 10:44:57
Fire
I meant to post as myself.
anonymous2
2003-04-12 11:21:06
Anti-spam measures
AIM has a lot of anti spam features, so it's unlikely that you'll see spam that isn't officially santioned by AOL. Since AOL is making money on the ads in the system (maybe) and there would be a huge flight to Yahoo! or MSN if people started getting spam, I suspect that you won't ever see spam on AIM.


The simplest protection is the fact that AIM uses names, not numbers for finding you. It's a lot easier to brute force ICQ's incremental numbers than it is to search AIM's namespace.


Also, all messages go through their cental servers. Bad if you want to discuss company secrets over IM, good if you want your IM to be able to block messages from getting to you. This makes sure that all messages come from authenticated senders, unlike ICQ's open port that accepts messages from everyone.


AIM also has (but iChat omits) a warning feature, that lets you add up to 35% to a user's warning level. Warning level limits a user's rate limit, which can kick them off the system if they send too many messages too quickly.


As anonymous poster, I'd be willing to stake my reputation on the fact that you'll never receive an unsolicited commercial IM on your AIM account. BTW, I've been using AIM for about 5 years now, and have never received a spam IM.

spaceman
2003-04-12 17:11:47
Anti-spam measures
"BTW, I've been using AIM for about 5 years now, and have never received a spam IM."


That blows my mind. I hope it proves true in my experience.


"Also, all messages go through their cental servers. Bad if you want to discuss company secrets over IM, good if you want your IM to be able to block messages from getting to you."


Hmm that's handy to know.

spaceman
2003-04-12 17:13:49
Fire
I've used this for IRC and can say that it was a little awkward for me. IRC apps, in general, seems to stink a bit on OSX.


However; I've got Fire... fired up and ready to try out.

spaceman
2003-04-12 17:15:06
None
"You can also set AIM to only show you as online for people on your buddy list--that's spam proof. " Nice.


I don't recall that option for ICQ. Anyone???

spaceman
2003-04-12 17:15:40
AIM? Never
"I even have my AIM name publically on my web page, but still no spam."


I'm floored.

cji
2003-04-12 19:51:33
AIM? Never
by my stupidity for doing that? or the fact that I haven't recieved spam?
spaceman
2003-04-13 04:26:21
AIM? Never
haha.


That you've not received any spam.

kaipahl
2003-04-18 11:17:08
Anti-spam measures
sorry to disappoint you both, but i got spammed during iChat-sessions in february/march. during some weeks about once every 2-3days. but still much lesser than 2years ago on ICQ...
anonymous2
2003-04-21 22:11:22
Fire
fire is only for OSX? is there a windows version somewhere?
anonymous2
2003-04-23 14:05:00
Jabber
Jabber (jabber.org) is still young but I doubt that spam will ever become a problem (there is *none* at the moment) because its well designed, in active development and you can run your own servers. There are also specific things such as connection karma which would make it uneconomical to spam.


You should use Jabber because the protocol is open (like irc), you can run your own server (if you want) and it's generaly cool.

anonymous2
2004-01-20 14:29:44
YOU CAN DO THIS!
YOU CAN DO THIS, AND MAKE GREAT PROFITS AT IT!!!


Turn $6 into $60,000 in 90 days, GUARANTEED


Postal lottery: Turn $6 into $60,000 in 90 days, GUARANTEED


I found this in a news group and decided to try it. A little while back,
I was browsing through news groups, just like you are now and came
across a message just like this, that said you could make thousands of
dollars within weeks with only an initial investment of $6.00!!!


So I thought yeah right, this must be a scam!!! But like most of us, I
was curious, so I kept reading. Anyway, it said that you send $1.00 to
each of the 6 names and addresses stated in the message. You then place
your own name and address at the bottom of the list at #6 and post the
message in at least 200 news groups. (There are thousands). No catch,
that was it.


So after thinking it over, and talking to a few people first. I thought
about trying it. I figured, what have I got to lose except 6 stamps and
$6.00, right? So I invested the measly $6.00!!! Guess what? Within 7
days I started getting money in the mail!!! I was shocked!!! I figured
it would end soon, but the money just kept coming in!!! In my first
week, I had made about $25.00. By the end of the second week, I had made
a total of over $1,000.00!!! In the third week, I had over $10,000.00
and it is still growing!!! This is now my fourth week and I have made a
total of just over $42,000.00 and it is still coming in rapidly!!! It's
certanly worth $6.00 and 6 stamps!!! I have spent more than that on the
lottery!!!


Let me tell you how this works and most importantly, why it works!!!
Also, make sure you
print a copy of this message now. So you can get the information off of
it as you need it. I promise you that if you follow the directions
exactly, that you will start making more money than you thought possible
by doing something so easy!!!


Suggestion: Read this entire message carefully!!! (Print it out or
download it.) Follow the simple directions and watch the money come
in!!! It's easy!!! It's legal!!! Your investment is only $6.00 (plus
postage).


IMPORTANT: This is not a rip-off!!! It is not
illegal!!! ? It is almost entirely risk free and it really works!!! If
all of the following instructions are adhered to, you will recieve
extraordinary dividends!!!


Please note: Follow these directions EXACTLY, and $60,000.00 or more can
be yours in 20 to 90 days!!! This program remains successful because of
the honesty and the integrity of the participants!!! Please continue its
success by carefully adhering to the instructions.


You will now become part of the mail order business. In this business
your product is not solid or tangible, it is a service. You are in the
business of developing mailing lists. Many large corporations are happy
to pay big bucks for
quality lists. However, the money made from a mailing list is secondary
to the income which is made from people like you and me asking to be
included on your mailing list!!!


Here are the 4 easy steps to success:


Step 1: Get 6 seperate pieces of paper and write the following on each
piece of paper.


PLEASE PUT ME ON YOUR MAILING LIST


Now get 6 U.S. dollar bills and place ONE inside each of the 6 pieces of
paper so the bills will not be seen through the envelopes (to prevent
mail theft). Next, place one paper in each of the 6 envelopes and seal
them, you should now have 6 sealed envelopes. Each with a piece of paper
stating the above phrase, your name and address, and a $1.00 bill.
THIS IS ABSOLUTELY LEGAL!!! YOU ARE REQUESTING A LEGITIMATE SERVICE AND
YOU ARE PAYING FOR IT!!!


Like most of us, I was a little skeptical and a little worried about the
legal aspect of it all. So I checked it out with the U.S. Postal Service
and they confirmed that it is indeed legal!!!


Mail the 6 envelopes to the following addresses:


#1)A.M.R.
23645 Cora
Brownstown, MI. USA 48183


#2)K. Costello
20812 135 Ave SE
Kent, WA 98042 USA


#3)B. Brown
1208 Steeple Ridge Ct
McKinney, Tx 75069 USA


#4)M. Lussier
3112 133A Ave NW
Edmonton, AB
T5A 2Z8


#5)N.E. Jackson
2101 S.W. Potomac Drive
Topeka, KS 66611


#6)T.J.F.
5503 83rd Ave. W.
University Place, WA 98467


Step 2: Now take the #1 name off the list that you see above, move the
other names up (6 becomes 5, 5 becomes 4, etc.) and add your name as
number 6 on the list.


Step 3: Change anything you need to, but try to keep this message as
close to what you see as possible. Now, post your amended message to at
least 200 news groups. I think there are close to 24,000 groups!!! All
you need is 200, but remember, the more you post, the more money you
make!!! This is perfectly legal!! If you have any doubts, refer to
Title18 sec. 1302 & 1341 of the postal lottery laws. Keep a copy of
these steps for yourself and whenever you need money, you can use it
again.


Please remember that this program remains successful because of the
honesty and the integrity of the participants and by their carefully
adhering to the directions!!!


Look at it this way. If you are of integrity, the program will continue
and the money that so many others have recieved will come your way!!!


Note: You may want to retain every name and address sent to you, either
on your computer or hard copy and keep the notes people send you. This
verifies that you are truely providing a service. Also, it might be a
good Idea to wrap the $1 bills in dark paper to reduce the risk of mail
theft.


So, as each post is downloaded and the directions carefully followed,
six members will be reimbursed for their participation as a list
developer with one dollar each. Your name will move up the list
geometrically so that when your name reaches the #1 position, you will
be receiving thousands of dollars in cash!!! What an opportunity for
only $6.00!!! ($1.00
for each of the first six people listed above).


Send it now, add your own name to the list and your in business!!!


DIRECTIONS FOR HOW TO POST TO A NEWS GROUP!!!


Step 1: You do not need to re-type this entire message to do your own
posting. Simply put your cursor at the beginning of this message and
drag your cursor to the bottom of this message and select copy from the
edit menu. This will copy the entire message into the computer memory.


Step 2: Open a blank note pad file and place your cursor at the top of
the blank page. From
the edit menu select paste. This will paste a copy of the message into
notepad so that you
can add your name to the list.


Step 3: Save your new notepad file as a txt file. If you want to do your
posting in a different setting, you'll always have this file to go back
to.
Step 4: Use Netscape or Internet Explorer and try searching for various
news groups (on-line forums, message boards, chat sites, discussions,
etc.)


Step 5: Visit these message boards and post this message as a new
message by highlighting the text of this message from your notepad and
selecting paste from the edit menu. Fill in the subject, this will be
the header that everybody sees as they scroll through the list of
postings in a particular group. Click the post message button. You've
done your first one! Congratulations!!! All You have to do is jump to
different news groups and post away, after you get the hang of it, it
will take about 30 seconds for each news group!


REMEMBER, THE MORE NEWS GROUPS YOU POST IN, THE MORE MONEY YOU WILL
MAKE!!!! (But you have to post a minimum of 200).


Thats it!!! You will begin receiving money from around the world within
days!!! You may eventually want to rent a P.O. Box due to the large
amount of mail you will receive. If you
wish to stay anonymous, you can invent a name to use, as long as the
postman will deliver it.


JUST MAKE SURE ALL THE ADDRESSES ARE CORRECT!!!


Now the why part. Out of 200 postings, say you recieve only 5 replies (a
very low example). So then you made $5.00 with your name at #6 on the
letter. Now, each of the 5 persons who sent you $1.00 make the minimum
200 postings, each with your name at #5 and only 5 persons respond to
each of the original 5, that is another $25.00 for you. Now those 25
each make 200 MINIMUM posts with your name at #4 and only 5 replies
each, you will bring in an additional $125.00!!!! Now, those 125 persons
turn around and post the minimum 200 with your name at #3 and only
recieve 5 replies each, you will make an additonal $625.00!!! OK, now
here is the fun part, each of those 625 persons post a minimum 200
messages with your name at #2 and they each only recieve 5 replies, that
just made you $3,125.00!!! Those 3,125 persons will all deliver this
message to 200 news groups, If just 5 more reply you will receive
$15,625.00!!! All with an original investment of only $6.00!!! Amazing
isn't it!!!! When your name is no longer on the list, you just take the
latest posting in the news groups and send out another $6.00 to the
names on the list, putting your name at number 6 again.


You must realize that thousands of people all over the world are joining
the internet and reading these messages every day!!! Just like you are
now!!! So, can you afford $6.00 and see if it really works? I'm glad I
did!!! People have said, "what if the plan is played out and no one
sends you the money?" So what!!! What are the chances of that happening,
when there are tons of new honest users and new honest people who are
joining the internet and news groups everyday and are willing to give it
a try? Estimates are at 20,000 to 50,000 new users, every day!!!


REMEMBER PLAY HONESTLY AND FAIRLY AND THIS WILL REALLY WORK!!!


dj20043
2005-02-18 16:01:42
make easy money fast
MAKE LOTS OF MONEY FAST AND EASY
Posted by Erin Billings - 3/24/2004 11:36:00 PM
A few years ago a man came to me with a letter. He asked me to verify the fact that this was legal to do. I told him I would review it and get back to him. When I first read the letter my client brought me, I thought it was some "off-the-wall" idea to make money. A week and a half later we met in my office to discuss the issue. I told him the letter he originally brought me was not 100% legal. My client then asked me to alter it to make it perfectly legal. I asked him to make one small change in the letter. I was still curious about the letter, so he explained to me how it works. I thought it seemed like a long shot, so I decided against participating. But before my client left, I asked him to keep me updated on his results. About two months later, he called me to tell me he had received over $800,000 in cash. I didn't believe him, so he asked me to try this idea and find out for myself. I thought about it for a couple of days and decided I really didn't have anything to lose, so I asked him for a copy of the letters. I followed the instructions exactly, mailed 200 copies, and sure enough, the money started coming in! It arrived slowly at first, but coming. I kept a precise record of the earnings, and in the end, it totalled $978,493! I could hardly believe it. I met with my friend for lunch to find out exactly how it worked. He told me there are quite a few similar letters around, but this one is different because there are six names at the end of the letter, not five like some others. This fact alone results in your name being in far more returns. The other fact was the help I gave him, making sure the whole thing was legal, since no one wants to take the risk of doing something illegal.
By now you are surely curious to know what small changes to make. If you sent a letter like this one out, in order to be completely legal, you must actually sell something in order to receive a dollar in return. So when you send a dollar to each of the names on the list, you must include these words, "PLEASE PUT ME ON YOUR MAILING LIST" and include your name and address. This is the key to the program. The item you will receive for the dollar you sent to the six people below is the letter.


At the time I first tried this idea, I was earning a good living as a lawyer. But everyone in the legal profession will tell you there is a lot of stress that comes with the job. I told myself if things worked out, I would retired from my practice and play golf. I decided to try the letter again, but this time I sent 500 copies. Three months later, I had totalled $2,341,178!


Here are a few reasons a person might give for not trying this program: Ø Some people think they can never make a lot of money with anything this simple. Ø Some are afraid they will be ridiculed for trying Ø Some dream of large sums of money, but do nothing to actually achieve it. Ø Some are just plain lazy. Ø Some are afraid of losing their investment. They think this program is designed to beat them out of a few dollars. The system works if you will just try it. But you must follow the simple instructions exactly, and in less than three months, you will receive $800,000 GUARANTEED! Keep what you are doing to yourself for awhile. Many will tell you it won’t work and will try to talk you out of your dreams. Let them know of your success after it works.


INSTRUCTIONS #1. Immediately send $1.00 to each of the six people on the list at the end of this letter. Wrap the dollar bill in a note saying " Please add me to your mailing list" and include your name and address.


#2. Copy this letter. You do not have to type it 200 times. Simply place your cursor at the top of the page, hold it and drag it all the way down to the end of the letter. Then click on "edit" and select "copy". Now open up a notepad file on your computer and put the cursor at the top of the page in the notepad, click on 'edit' and then select 'paste' it will copy the letter for you onto your computer.


#3. Remove the name next to the #1 on the list and move the rest of the names up one position (#2 becomes #1, #3 becomes #2, etc…..) Then place your name in the #6 position. Then save it, make sure it is saved as a txt. file.


#4. When you have completed the instructions, take this letter and then go to (Google, Yahoo,...) and type in (Making Money Message board, or post message,...)and start posting your copy to 200 message boards, or more, this is only the minimum, you can post as much as you like...The more copies you send the better the results. Keep a copy of this letter so you can use it a second time. Post it out again in six months, but Post it with the addresses you receive with each dollar.


It will work better the second time. NOTE: This service is 100% legal (Refer to title 18 section 1302 of the U.S. Postal & lottery laws) How does it work? When you send out 200 Posts, it is estimated that at least 15 people will respond and send you a $1.00. ($15.00) Those 15 will Post 200 Posts each and 225 people send you $1.00 ($225.00) Those 225 people Post 200 Posts each and 3,375 people send you $1.00 ($3,375.00) Those 3,375 post 200 posts each and 759,375 people send you $1.00 ($759,375.00) At this point your name drops off the list, but so far you have received $813,615.00. P.S. When your money begins to come in, give the first 10% to charity with spirit and share a good fortune!



Jim P 3766 SpringGreen Rd Green Bay, WI 54313


John Harlow 30 Minton Dr Newport News, Va. 23606


RS Sutherland 6800 Chesterbrook CT 102 Raleigh, NC 27615


RC Boutcher 9 Burdell Place St. John’s, NL, Canada A1E 6A4


Roger K. Kleinhenz P.O.Box 30691 Flagstaff, Az. 86003


Marshele J. 346 20th Street Lakeport, Ca 95453



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2007-01-15 14:21:19
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