Nokia Phone Camera, Pocket PC 2003, QuickTime, & RealOne

by Todd Ogasawara

The local T-Mobile office was kind enough to loan me a Nokia 3650 Bluetooth Camera phone to test with my newly purchased HP iPAQ 2215 Pocket PC 2003 (which also has integrated Bluetooth). I found it simple fast to copy the still photo and video files from the phone to the Pocket PC wirelessly using Bluetooth (neither my desktop nor my notebook PCs have Bluetooth radios).


I was surprised to find the Nokia's built-in sub-megapixel (640x480) still/video camera was fun and addictive (I've never used a phone with a camera until now). The still images are saved to conventional JPEG image files. So, I could deal with those immediately on both my Pocket PC and desktop PC. However, I wasn't familiar with the 3GP format (and the underconstruction 3GP.com only has a front page right now. So, I couldn't figure out to see the video on anything except the Nokia 3650 phone itself.


Fortunately, a bit of searching resulted in learning Apple QuickTime 6.3 (with a 3GPP component that can be downloaded from from Apple) and RealOne can both play the 3GP video files on my Windows based PC.


At this point, I recommend using QuickTime with the add-on 3GPP component on the desktop. Both RealOne and QuickTime read the Nokia created files as 320x240 files. But, looking at the playback (and the size of the Nokia's screen), that can't be right. The QuickTime/RealOne playback looks too grainy. QuickTime, however, has a Half-Size playback option that lets the video quality approach what you see on the Nokia screen. I didn't find that option after quickly (perhaps too quickly) checking RealOne. I still haven't found a way to view the 3GP video files on my Pocket PC.


If you are interested in the Nokia 3650 camera's still photo quality, I revised my Pocket PC CompactFlash/Sleeve Camera review on my personal website (REVIEW: Casio, HP, and Nexian Pocket PC Add-on Cameras


Any Nokia 3650 phone/camera experience to share?


20 Comments

anonymous2
2003-07-04 23:47:14
3GPP
Try http://www.3gpp.org/ for more information.
anonymous2
2003-07-05 04:53:16
I still haven't found a way to view the 3GP video files on my Pocket PC
Try http://www.realnetworks.com/mobile/player/ppc/index.html
toddogas
2003-07-05 19:56:17
I still haven't found a way to view the 3GP video files on my Pocket PC
Yep. Tried it. It didn't recognize the file format.
toddogas
2003-07-05 19:57:58
3GPP
Thanks!...todd
robla
2003-07-07 23:45:41
Specs for these formats
The 3GPP site is pretty tough to navigate without knowing what you're doing. Here's the deep links to the relevant specs:


  • TS 26.233 End-to-end transparent streaming service; General description
  • TS 26.234 Transparent end-to-end transparent streaming service; Protocols and codecs


I'll be giving a talk at OSCON on Friday called Untangling Multimedia Standards where I'll cover things like this.



Hope this helps.


Rob Lanphier

Helix Community Coordinator


anonymous2
2003-07-13 04:18:23
requirement of .3gp s/w
i have got a Nokia phone 3650, to view its video recording clips it looks for .3gp s/w.


May pl. let us know how can i download the same.

toddogas
2003-07-13 14:07:23
Nokia Multimedia Player available from Nokia
Ah... If I had only searched in the most obvious place. Nokia provides a bunch of free utilities to use with the 3650. One is the Nokia Multimedia Player that deals with the ".3gp" files on the desktop (Microsoft Windows) PC. You can find it at:


Nokia 3650 Software

anonymous2
2003-07-21 07:30:02
Pocket PC and 3gp file format
Does anyone know how to view this file format on the pocket pc? brinksguy3@yahoo.com


Thanks

anonymous2
2003-11-06 09:02:27
Pocket PC and 3gp file format
anonymous2
2003-11-19 23:06:36
Pocket PC and 3gp file format
Yes... finally, you can play 3gpp files on your pocket pc 2002/2003 with this application.


http://www.digitalnetworks.philips.com/InformationCenter/Global/FHomepage-NoXCache.asp?lNodeId=756&channel=756&channelId=N756A2167

anonymous2
2003-11-19 23:09:13
3GPP
todd... here you go, download the pocket pc version and you'll be able to play it


http://www.digitalnetworks.philips.com/InformationCenter/Global/FHomepage-NoXCache.asp?lNodeId=756&channel=756&channelId=N756A2167

anonymous2
2003-11-29 13:28:13
Pocket PC and 3gp file format
Use 'Pictpockets' Video Converter Software. It will take the .3gp film and uncompress it slightly to give you a .mov file which will play happily using 'Pictpockets' movie playey for Pocket PC (I too have a IPAQ).


garyleeshaw@btopenworld.com

anonymous2
2003-12-29 06:43:22
Pocket PC and 3gp file format
anonymous2
2003-12-29 06:46:51
Pocket PC and 3gp file format
hi, i have the same problem and i tryed the link but i still can't find the application.
appear me just a page without download link.
please help me
miki
italy
anonymous2
2003-12-29 07:07:30
3GPP
hi i've tryed the link but i can't find applications or something to dowload
thanks
miki
preetham2020_oreal
2004-01-29 22:05:59
Pocket PC and 3gp file format
Hai All,
The best way is
1)Build Helix dna client for
pocket pc
2)Get some 3gp files from
http://www.mitsoftware.com/akiles/
and start play

extra information contact
k_preetham_rao@yahoo.com

with regards,
preetham



preetham2020_oreal
2004-01-29 22:06:04
Pocket PC and 3gp file format
Hai All,
The best way is
1)Build Helix dna client for
pocket pc
2)Get some 3gp files from
http://www.mitsoftware.com/akiles/
and start play

extra information contact
k_preetham_rao@yahoo.com

with regards,
preetham



fidangul
2005-02-20 11:01:34
Pocket PC and 3gp file format
rongconn
2005-06-19 20:29:16
Pocket PC and 3gp file format
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wigee@charter.net
2006-01-21 23:02:34
Pocket PC and 3gp file format
needs to convert reg. program to pda format